What is justice? Why should one be just?
Polemantus: owe friends help; owe enemies harm; giving what is fitting is justice.
Thrasymachus: justice is advantage of the stronger.
Justice is desired for sake & consequences.
1. Justice starts from surrender. Getting far away from suffering injustice–compact
2. Pursue for good things.
3. Make people live better life & good reputation.
Adeimantus: Justice is desirable for its sake.
Book III Physical & music training
Book IV (Identify justice on a city-wide level)
Adeimantus: guardians–individual happy v.s. whole city happy
build a good city, a just city.
Looking for——(virtues)—-wisdom (guardians knowledge about how to run the city), courage (fight for the city), moderation (agreement on who should rule), justice
Soul–wise, courageous, moderate–same forms & depositions
Calculation, desire, spirit
In society, each one is doing their own job; in soul, different parts do different things.
Book V. Women & Children
three waves equality–women & men–stronger, different roles, no distinction–soul & nature
Only philosophers can have knowledge
Men born with philosophical nature–courageous, high-minded, quick learners
corrupted (navigator, captain, one who knows ship)
Philosophers rule making a good city possible.
The allegory of the cave
Education puts knowledge into the soul
Four constitutions of city & man
timocracy–rulers of lovers, honor-driven man
oligarchy–rulers of the wealthy
democracy–freedom (battle between oligarchy & the poor-virtue)
tyranny–ruled by a man driven by his unlawful appetites
Tyrannical man–ruled by lawless desires
the most unjust, the least happy